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Van started having problems today. Wife put it into drive and it wouldn't go, engine would rev up and then jerk forward. Same thing happened in reverse. I told her to let it sit for a while and tried it out and it shifted into drive and reverse fine but could hear a definitive whine from the engine even when in park. This happened one other time about 2 weeks after we had the transmission flushed (my wife got suckered into it with an oil change...not happy about that). It has been fine for 8 months or so. My question is should I limp this sucker into the dealer to trade it in or repair it? Tips? We are upside down at the moment so...
 

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How many miles are on it? Makes me wonder if they put the correct fluid in. Maybe drop the pan, put in a new filter and add 5.5 quarts and cross your fingers.
 

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most of the time i hear of transmissions "whining" on these vans it ends up being a clogged filter

the filter becomes clogged and then there isn't enough pressure to properly engage clutch packs or shift, causing a slipping/no shift situation

i don't like the whole "transmission flush" thing, who did it and what fluid did they use? there isn't really any reason to flush these transmissions unless improper fluid has been introduced
 

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Shops have a tendency to use universal transmission fluids or Amsoil product. Neither is equal to ATF+4.

First step could be a proper change of fluid using ATF+4.

Normally the filter should last the life of the transmission unless there's something going on to dirty it up.
 

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Shops have a tendency to use universal transmission fluids or Amsoil product. Neither is equal to ATF+4.

First step could be a proper change of fluid using ATF+4.

Normally the filter should last the life of the transmission unless there's something going on to dirty it up.
Do engine oil filters last the life of the engine?
 

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I wonder what sort of flush machine they used and of course what kind of ATF.
If, for example, the flushing machine was hooked up backwards through the cooler lines, I could see the break in metals possibly clogging the transmission filter.

The safest and cheapest way for now would be to drop the transmission pan, change the filter and fill with ATF+4 fluid. It may just work.
 

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Van started having problems today. Wife put it into drive and it wouldn't go, engine would rev up and then jerk forward. Same thing happened in reverse. I told her to let it sit for a while and tried it out and it shifted into drive and reverse fine but could hear a definitive whine from the engine even when in park. This happened one other time about 2 weeks after we had the transmission flushed (my wife got suckered into it with an oil change...not happy about that). It has been fine for 8 months or so. My question is should I limp this sucker into the dealer to trade it in or repair it? Tips? We are upside down at the moment so...
Hi Skins4ev4,
We are sorry to hear about your transmission concern. If you consider having your dealer address this and are interested, private message us and we can try to add additional assistance from our end!
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Just got the call from the dealer. Tranny is bad and will need replaced. $3,815 yikes! Anyone else have experience with dealer versus independent transmission shops? I will be calling around today to check other options.
 

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Do as suggested change your fluid and filter, they get clogged. I would do a total fluid replacement by disconnecting the trans cooler line. My 2013 did exactly as yours 25k ago, shifts perfect now. Dealer quoted 3500 to replace mine. I also added 1 four once bottle of Mopar limited slip additive which does wonders for the torque converter. I know many are going say never do an additive to transmission fluid, but Dodge and Ford truck owners know it cures noisy, shuddering torque converters. Good luck it should save you 4000.00.
 

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If you go for a new transmission, ask if it is new or refurbished. Dealers will go refurbished as first option.

Some time ago, my transmission was replaced, a brand new was installed in Mexico. Think I paid $3600.00 USD for a new one (not refurbished) .

Replacing ATF and filter will just add up to your final price if it doesn't help, but it is your call.
 

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Get the van back and drop the transmission pan. Look inside the filter with a flashlight and if it looks clogged then replace it. Reseal the pan with "Right Stuff" and tighten the bolts down with a nut driver so they dont get overtorqued. Refill it with 5.5 quarts of Mopar ATF+4.

Their is a chance it might be bad, but you came into the shop telling them it was bad so they know its not unreasonable for them to say its bad and you believe them. The wrong fluid is horrible for these vans and you probably dont know the level of the fluid when you took it in. It could be underfilled or the filter might not be seated properly so it wont pickup fluid like it should. The cost of the fluid change is far cheaper then the cost you are about to incur with a $4000 transmission bill on top of an upside down loan and just might fix the situation. The shop surely wont try it when they know your other option replacement which is major profit for them.
 

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Many shops will under fill these transmission make sure it is filled to the max on the temperature chart, many of these transmissions are replaced only needing simple repairs.
 

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if you do buy refurbished/rebuilt, make sure whoever you buy from has a transmission dyno

if they don't they haven't even tested it
 

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most of the time i hear of transmissions "whining" on these vans it ends up being a clogged filter

the filter becomes clogged and then there isn't enough pressure to properly engage clutch packs or shift, causing a slipping/no shift situation

i don't like the whole "transmission flush" thing, who did it and what fluid did they use? there isn't really any reason to flush these transmissions unless improper fluid has been introduced
I agree
Get the van back and drop the transmission pan. Look inside the filter with a flashlight and if it looks clogged then replace it. Reseal the pan with "Right Stuff" and tighten the bolts down with a nut driver so they dont get overtorqued. Refill it with 5.5 quarts of Mopar ATF+4.

Their is a chance it might be bad, but you came into the shop telling them it was bad so they know its not unreasonable for them to say its bad and you believe them. The wrong fluid is horrible for these vans and you probably dont know the level of the fluid when you took it in. It could be under-filled or the filter might not be seated properly so it wont pickup fluid like it should. The cost of the fluid change is far cheaper then the cost you are about to incur with a $4000 transmission bill on top of an upside down loan and just might fix the situation. The shop surely wont try it when they know your other option replacement which is major profit for them.
Let me add that it the torque on the pan bolts are Inch pounds not foot pounds. I got the wrong spec from on of those repair books and when I did the first bolt I knew that it was wrong. Skins4ev4 this is a very easy job to do and well worth the time to see if you do not have to replace the transmission. With decent care these transmissions go a long way. Just make sure that the transmission is completely full after you do this and use the +4 fluid. Just don't over fill it. Check the transmission level when it is fully warmed up. Run it through the gears and then put in neutral and check it again.

Make sure you report back.
 

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Awesome info folks! I haven’t had a chance to look around the internet for DIY videos, I will do that and give it a try. Probably worth it at this point. If anyone has a video on tap let me know
 
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