Certified Minivan Freak
I have owned MANY new vehicles and some purchased used. The BEST location for the shifter is on the steering column. The BEST location for all other controls is EXACTLY as they were located on the 2002 T&C, Voyager, Caravan, and Grand Caravan and the same vehicles up thru 2007. I specifically wrote 2002 because many nice features were deleted between 2002 and 2007. :help_wsig
I do NOT like the shifter on the dash as in my 2006 Sienna. I also do NOT like the stupid little lever on the steering column for the Cruise Control (where it was also located on my 2003 Chrysler PT Cruiser).
I also do NOT like having ALL windshield wiper and washer controls on one stalk on the right side of the steering column, I do NOT like the headlight controls on a stalk and the stereo having ONE button to control everything so I must scroll thru the entire menu to change anything like Bass, Treble, Balance, Fade.
The transmission shifter/selector location preference seems to be the place that we have had in previous vehicles. Mine have mostly been on the column (with a few on the floor) so I prefer the column location. :thumb:I can't get use to the shifter on the column. My Accord's in the console, my Ody was on the dash, and my previous vehicle, an 03 Pilot, was in the console... :biggrin:
This fall, the will start selling the Dodge Caravan...in China.Youse guys are sick of hearing my opinion on the demise of the SWB models so I'l spare you with this message...
And look at the chrome on the front grill, like the '01-'03 ES had...This fall, the will start selling the Dodge Caravan...in China.
Check it out:
In the article, they refer to it as the 'Dodge Caravan."
I grabbes a picture of it and copied it to my photo album:
Check out the headlights--they are shaped like the 2005-2007 Town & Country
Probably a GM product, at least in my case. I might even go completely nuts and get a Toyota (Mrs. Caravan Sport likes the looks of the little Scion wagon--not the breadbox one, but the more "normal" looking one).Dodge. American Engineering. German Financiering. Chinese Manufacturing.
Probably a GM product, at least in my case. I might even go completely nuts and get a Toyota (Mrs. Caravan Sport likes the looks of the little Scion wagon--not the breadbox one, but the more "normal" looking one).
I actually saw a silver SE w/o tinted windows driving the opposing way when i went to go pick up my PT from the dealership in Auburn Hills, and that was about a month ago. But that was also very near the Chrysler HQ.I think I just spied one of the 5th gens on the road today... Is that possible?
Yeah, the Scion is awfully dinky. My wife likes the non-breadbox one, whichever that is. We looked at a Vibe and it seemed more substantial. It also sits a little higher, which is a big plus for my wife. Fuel economy isn't much less than the Scion, either (with auto tranny).The little Toyota Scion Xa is VERY small. When a Scion Xa is parked next to a Chrysler PT Cruiser, the PT Cruiser looks and feels HUGE. :help_wsig
After buying our new 2006 Sienna LE 20 months ago, I warn everyone to NOT buy a Toyota....(unless Consumer Reports is the Bible in your home). :jpshakehe :ninja:
So what wrong with the Sienna???????? I thought EVERYONE that paid so much for this mistake could NEVER admit it. (Per Japanese law):usa:After buying our new 2006 Sienna LE 20 months ago, I warn everyone to NOT buy a Toyota....(unless Consumer Reports is the Bible in your home). :jpshakehe :ninja:
So what wrong with the Sienna???????? I thought EVERYONE that paid so much for this mistake could NEVER admit it. (Per Japanese law)
So you do like it, but you say it cost too much. And it was NOT any better than the T&C van? ICThe Sienna is a nice minivan...on a par with the Grand Caravan, Town & Country, and Odyssey. I am disappointed with my 2006 Sienna LE because I expected it to be superior to the T&C or Grand Caravan after reading the bull dung written by CR, Edmunds, and other self proclaimed experts. :help_wsig
2006 GC SXT w/ Power Liftgate ($ 400 option) MSRP 28,230 sale $22,891 (May 1, 2006).So you do like it, but you say it cost too much. And it was NOT any better than the T&C van? IC
I never owned one, but have read lots that indicated that this was one of the best vans available, IF you want to PAY. I buy cars maybe 4 years old, and you don't find that many Siennas. When you do they are higher than the T&C. They do seem to hold value better.
What about Gas mileage? And you said nothing about maintenance. Do they require more/less/same $ compared the T&C?
THAT was a nice writeup with some good notes. The drum brakes on the rear surprised me.Sienna LE has 6 CD in dash changer. Sienna has NO Cassette player.GC SXT has separately controlled temperature for driver and front passenger that is NOT on the Sienna LE :jpshakehe , 2 power sliding doors vs 1 on my Sienna, GC SXT has alloy wheels while Sienna has wheel covers, + Stow 'N Go seating (which I do not like as well as the old Quad seats and 50/50 split fold and tumble seating of my 02 T&C eL). GC SXT has 4 wheel disc ABS while Sienna has 4 wheel ABS disc front/drums on rear wheels.
The GC SXT provides a better minivan for the money (NEW or Used) than does the Sienna LE or Odyssey EX. :thumb: ....although each has some advantages.