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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysler1924 View Post
    I've been easing up the pedal ever since I had my 1990 many years ago. I've always babied these e-brake pedals but they continuously fail.
    Go figger, right? That's always a kicker, when you DO take care of something and it breaks. You don't suppose... because these are engineered for soccer moms... they're designed to be abused? Naaah! But if you've babied them all these years on several different vehicles and they continuously fail, perhaps, following logic, you should start letting the pedal fly up? I'm not making fun, I'm just trying to figure this out and learn from your experience. I'm as puzzled as you are.
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    -1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE. Factory Emerald Green, with aftermarket rust accents ("What rocker panels?!") 192,000 miles (and counting) with the 3.8L and ORIGINAL 41TE. The Spinach-Van!
    -1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE, Factory Rosewood paint with ZERO rust, 3.3l, 175,000 miles. The "new" van. It's a baby. The Eggplant-Van!

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    Exclamation This is how I deal with the emergency brake.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daasch View Post
    Go figger, right? That's always a kicker, when you DO take care of something and it breaks. ... I'm just trying to figure this out and learn from your experience. I'm as puzzled as you are.
    When DEPARTING with the vans.
    1. Get in, buckle up.
    2. Start the engine, placing RIGHT foot on the brake pedal, LEFT foot on the parking brake pedal.
    3. With the RIGHT foot firmly on the brake, pull the parking brake release handle, easing the pedal up with my left foot.
    4. Shift to Drive.

    When PARKING with the vans.
    1. Pull into desired parking position.
    2. Stop the vehicle with RIGHT foot on the brake pedal.
    3. Once the vehicle is stopped **prior to shifting into PARK**, firmly apply the parking brake with the left foot.
    4. Carefully lift the right foot off the brake pedal allowing the van's weight to rest firmly on the emergency brake alone.
    5. **THEN** shift the van into park.
    6. Turn off engine, de-van.

    **By doing this, regardless of where the van is parked, the parking pawl in the 41TE never holds the weight of the vehicle. Thus prolonging the life of the transmission.

    It's important to note that I utilize the parking brake in every vehicle I drive, every time it is parked. Flat terrain, hill, or otherwise. It might be overkill, but it's another safety-check and it certainly doesn't hurt.

    Honestly, I think Chrysler was counting on the fact that people would only actually use the parking brake twice a year for the entire life of the vehicle. They never thought that people might actually use them how they were intended to be used. As a result, they didn't pay any attention to the **** design. So they fail. All. The. Time. After having a fourth van do this to me, I finally decided to try and fix it myself. (Not going well at the moment though...)

    1990 Dodge Grand Caravan LE had this problem.
    1996 Chrysler Town & Country LX HAS this problem.
    1996 Chrysler Town & Country LXi HAS this problem.
    2000 Chrysler Town & Country Limited HAS this problem.
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    I honestly have to say my van sits on my highly slanted driveway every night and I have not once applied the parking brake, it currently has 310,000km (192,600miles approx.) on the original engine, transmission and solenoid pack, other than regular fluid/filter changes I've done nothing to the trans. So I'm not 100% sure how much the parking brake would help at this point. Do others recommend using the parking brake? I only really use them on manual cars.

    Current Rides:
    2000 Dodge Grand Caravan SE 3.3L, original 41TE, 194,000km's and counting (New work van)
    1999 Dodge Grand Caravan Sport 3.8L, original 41TE, 304,000km's and counting! (Dad's Van)

    Past Rides Worth Mentioning:
    2000 Dodge Caravan Sport 3.8L, original 41TE, 344,000km's, Totalled
    2010 Chrysler Town & Country Touring 4.0L, original 62TE, 88,400km's, Being traded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysler1924 View Post
    Honestly, I think Chrysler was counting on the fact that people would only actually use the parking brake twice a year for the entire life of the vehicle. They never thought that people might actually use them how they were intended to be used. As a result, they didn't pay any attention to the **** design. So they fail. All. The. Time. After having a fourth van do this to me, I finally decided to try and fix it myself. (Not going well at the moment though...)

    1990 Dodge Grand Caravan LE had this problem.
    1996 Chrysler Town & Country LX HAS this problem.
    1996 Chrysler Town & Country LXi HAS this problem.
    2000 Chrysler Town & Country Limited HAS this problem.
    I couldn't agree with you more. I think you hit the nail on the head with Chrysler only expecting people to use the P-brake twice a year (or less!). It certainly lacks a robustness of design for something that would get daily usage. Almost as if it were an afterthought or a matter of "Geez, we have to put a parking brake on this, how can we save money on it? Drivers hardly ever use it anyway..."

    Some words of encouragement: The first one you change will be the hardest. From there it only gets easier, and by the time you get the last one done, you'll be an expert.

    With my 99 the P-brake started acting up (not staying engaged) and that's when I found the kinked release cable. Apparently I got lucky and dodged (no pun) that bullet. But it was just the "feel" of it, how easily it would "pop out" of engagement that led me to treat the P-brake with increased kid-glovedness. (Is that even a word?) I only use mine when I feel I need it, on hills, when performing certain maintenance, etc. And sure enough, one day the head snapped the off the cable going to the left drum. So now I don't use it at all. Stupid rust!

    Good luck there Chrysler1924. I'm rooting for ya.
    Daasch Blitzco
    -1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE. Factory Emerald Green, with aftermarket rust accents ("What rocker panels?!") 192,000 miles (and counting) with the 3.8L and ORIGINAL 41TE. The Spinach-Van!
    -1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE, Factory Rosewood paint with ZERO rust, 3.3l, 175,000 miles. The "new" van. It's a baby. The Eggplant-Van!

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    I have had different experience, I had a 90 GV and kept it for 15 yrs, over 100k miles much in the mtns. and I set the parking brake almost every time I park to keep strain off the tranny cable and pawl. Had two break on my 81 Aries and since then I have always used the e brake when parking. I had to replace the cable on the 90 GV about 2003. If you use it consistently I think it is beneficial for the system, occasional use probably makes the problems worse. I have always kept the components and pivots lubed. The 2000 Caravan actually adjusted the rear brakes by using the e brake and those who don't use it are not getting full braking capability. I use a little different method than the one given, which is good. If there is a significant incline, (or deep sand can preload the weight on the pawl as well) I always set the e brake with my foot on the brake and in neutral, then allow the weight to roll back onto the e brake, then I shift into P. Never been stuck since doing it that way.
    2005 T&C Ltd 3.8 69k
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    1990 Dynasty 3.0 120k 1 tranny 4yrs
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    Just to give a little history in my situation: My 99 Spinach-Van is a rust-bucket from the rust-belt and I don't think the parking brake had ever been used before I bought it. So, of course, it was well rusted and stuck quite a bit until I could get it worked in and lubricated. And then the left side cable snapped about a year after I bought it.

    Usually I use my parking brake quite often. Keeps it from getting like the one on the 99. The GF's new-to-us 96 has no rust and the parking brake works well so we use it all the time.

    I'm disheartened to hear all the trouble Chrysler1924 is having. He's doing everything right, and the reward he gets is one mechanism failure after the other. Just doesn't make sense. Wish I had an answer or suggestion, but I'm lost here.
    Daasch Blitzco
    -1999 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE. Factory Emerald Green, with aftermarket rust accents ("What rocker panels?!") 192,000 miles (and counting) with the 3.8L and ORIGINAL 41TE. The Spinach-Van!
    -1996 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE, Factory Rosewood paint with ZERO rust, 3.3l, 175,000 miles. The "new" van. It's a baby. The Eggplant-Van!

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    TC Wagner: "The 2000 Caravan actually adjusted the rear brakes by using the e brake and those who don't use it are not getting full braking capability"

    This is so true. I live on the prairies. It was only the thought of going down the mountains on my annual holiday without an e brake that motivated me to fix it. In the process of fixing it I realised that the back brakes were hardly working - that really freaked me out.

    Thankfully I just took the brakes apart put them back together and they seemed to work. The place where the cable goes from one to two had siezed up. It is halfway along underneath drivers side.maybe that was the problem

    The more I use the e brake though the better they are

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    I replaced mine recently with a dealer new unit and logged the date and event into my maintenance history journal.

    I use it constantly so I'll make it known if and when it fails and how long it lasted under daily use.
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    Well, two mechanics at the dealer tried to get it off when I stopped by earlier. To no avail. Full story at the other thread. Van goes to the dealer Monday before I absolutely lose my mind.
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