2010 T&C Touring 3.8L - Dashboard Alert to change oil, at 5500miles



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    2010 T&C Touring 3.8L - Dashboard Alert to change oil, at 5500miles

    Is that just an automated reminder, or does the engine have sensors that are telling me the oil needs changing, like on my BMW.

    If so, why would it need changing at this interval? I had the oil changed at 2900, even though the manual says 6k, cause thats what the dealer told me to do, and they gave me 10 coupons for 15 dollar oil changes for the first 30k miles anyway so why not, its the same cost (half price, 2x as often).

    Should I be concerned about this alert? I called the dealer and they just told me to bring it in (of course, what else would they say, lol)

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M.2010 View Post
    Is that just an automated reminder, or does the engine have sensors that are telling me the oil needs changing, like on my BMW.

    If so, why would it need changing at this interval? I had the oil changed at 2900, even though the manual says 6k, cause thats what the dealer told me to do, and they gave me 10 coupons for 15 dollar oil changes for the first 30k miles anyway so why not, its the same cost (half price, 2x as often).

    Should I be concerned about this alert? I called the dealer and they just told me to bring it in (of course, what else would they say, lol)
    A few comments:
    • Your BMW does not have sensors that test the quality of the oil per se, it simply measures the amount of fuel used since the last reset of the OLM system (Oil Life Monitor), and infers the condition of the oil from that.
    • My understanding is that the Chrysler OLM is not quite so sophisticated and it really errs on the side of caution.
    • FWIW, it is my bet that your dealer didn't reset the OLM system in your van when you brought it in for the 2,900 mile oil change and that's why its recommending the change now.
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    This topic has been beaten to death before.

    Check it out:

    http://forum.chryslerminivan.net/showthread.php?t=11860
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMAMA View Post
    This topic has been beaten to death before.

    Check it out:

    http://forum.chryslerminivan.net/showthread.php?t=11860
    Thanks! I figured it had, but couldn't find it. My apologies for the extra thread.

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    No worries - welcome to the forum!
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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M.2010 View Post
    Is that just an automated reminder, or does the engine have sensors that are telling me the oil needs changing, like on my BMW.

    If so, why would it need changing at this interval? I had the oil changed at 2900, even though the manual says 6k, cause thats what the dealer told me to do, and they gave me 10 coupons for 15 dollar oil changes for the first 30k miles anyway so why not, its the same cost (half price, 2x as often).

    Should I be concerned about this alert? I called the dealer and they just told me to bring it in (of course, what else would they say, lol)
    If you use your van for short trips or in city driving, the oil change reminder will come on about every 3,000 miles. It does not have sensors. It calculates engine duty cycles, it also calculates some criteria during those engine duty cycles, and makes an estimated guess on when to change the oil based on that data. The light usually comes on the first time around 3,000 miles or so. Seems like they start to lengthen out after that if you use your vehicle for more than just short trips. If you were my customer I'd tell you it's up to you. Your van thinks the oil needs to be changed based on the logic explained above. If you want to wait till it has been 3,000 miles since your last change, that should be ok as well.

    FWIW, IMO the first oil change should always be done early. Any metal or grit that has came loose is in that first oil filter. The quicker you get it out, the better. I've only had one new car, a 2007 Ford Focus. I performed the first oil change at 2,000 miles, even though it was not recommended till 5,000.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jgbat View Post
    If you use your van for short trips or in city driving, the oil change reminder will come on about every 3,000 miles. It does not have sensors. It calculates engine duty cycles, it also calculates some criteria during those engine duty cycles, and makes an estimated guess on when to change the oil based on that data. The light usually comes on the first time around 3,000 miles or so. Seems like they start to lengthen out after that if you use your vehicle for more than just short trips. If you were my customer I'd tell you it's up to you. Your van thinks the oil needs to be changed based on the logic explained above. If you want to wait till it has been 3,000 miles since your last change, that should be ok as well.

    FWIW, IMO the first oil change should always be done early. Any metal or grit that has came loose is in that first oil filter. The quicker you get it out, the better. I've only had one new car, a 2007 Ford Focus. I performed the first oil change at 2,000 miles, even though it was not recommended till 5,000.

    The thing is, I did the first change at 2900, and there was no indicator, now 2600 miles later the light comes on, at 5500, which is when it should come on if the system was never reset after the first change, which is the most likely thing that happened. I'll get it done this week and then I think I'm going to wait for it to come on again or 5k miles, whichever comes first to get it changed. Seems like every 3k is way over kill from what I read in all the other threads on this topic. I'm only keeping the van 3-4 years, so I just want to make sure I keep the warranty valid, 1k before recommended in the manual at the latest will surely do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.A.M.2010 View Post
    The thing is, I did the first change at 2900, and there was no indicator, now 2600 miles later the light comes on, at 5500, which is when it should come on if the system was never reset after the first change, which is the most likely thing that happened. I'll get it done this week and then I think I'm going to wait for it to come on again or 5k miles, whichever comes first to get it changed. Seems like every 3k is way over kill from what I read in all the other threads on this topic. I'm only keeping the van 3-4 years, so I just want to make sure I keep the warranty valid, 1k before recommended in the manual at the latest will surely do that.
    It will. All I'm saying is I have seen them come on at like 2800 miles. I've also seen the thing not get reset. Which could be your issue.
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    Can you reset the oil change indicator if it hasn't come on?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JOEMAMA View Post
    Can you reset the oil change indicator if it hasn't come on?
    Yes. But if it was not on, the person may have not thought to do it.
    Jeff
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    Current:
    2007 Grand Caravan/3.8L V6/103K mi/original 41TE
    2006 300C/5.7L HEMI V8/128/K mi/original W5A580
    2002 PT Cruiser/2.4L I4/139K mi/original 40TE
    1992 S-10/4.3L V6/249K mi/original 4L60E
    Previous minivans:
    1997 Grand Voyager SE/traded@192K mi/3.3L V6/original 41TE
    2003 Grand Caravan Sport/3.8L V6/traded@124K mi/original 41TE
    2007 T&C/3.8L V6/traded@44K mi/ original 41TE
    2010 T&C Touring/3.8L V6/the ex's@72K mi/original 62TE

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