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    Even after alignment, van still pulls

    Hello,
    I have a 2012 Grand Caravan SXT. I bought it used with 40k on it, and it has about 90k on it now.
    It's had a pull to the right since I've owned it. I got the alignment done, and switched tires/rims, and no matter what it still pulls, even if i'm going city speed or highway.
    Anybody know what else it can be?
    I have a bit of warranty left so I'm thinking I'll bring it in, but if anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
    Thanks

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    Check your brakes, you may have one problematic caliper.







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    Check for play in the wheel bearing as well, as the caliper. I have seen vehicles be "aligned" with bearing play. They don't have to be noisy to be going bad. But since it has been pulling since you bought it, it is not the magic bullet.
    Also control arm bushings, ball joint
    Trying to think of parts that are static during the alignment, and move during driving.
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    How do the tire wear patterns look? Is the steering wheel centered?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GoTWhisKeY View Post
    Hello,
    I have a 2012 Grand Caravan SXT. I bought it used with 40k on it, and it has about 90k on it now.
    It's had a pull to the right since I've owned it. I got the alignment done, and switched tires/rims, and no matter what it still pulls, even if i'm going city speed or highway.
    Anybody know what else it can be?
    I have a bit of warranty left so I'm thinking I'll bring it in, but if anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
    Thanks
    Welcome to the site.
    You said you have had an alignment done. Could you post the settings?
    Too much cross camber and especially cross caster will cause a pull. The camber can be adjusted with cam kits. The caster being off means something is worn,bent or was made wrong.
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    The pull to the right is common, as was the case with 2010 SXT 4.0... There was in fact excessive positive camber on front right wheel. I was able to correct it by loosening strut mount bolts and tapping on steering knuckle while supporting brake rotor, and also with some adjustment at upper mount nuts. It was enough to then have to toe front right wheel back out with tie-rod adjustment. Pull is now reduced by more than half.
    Also, right rear wheel shows an excess of toe-in and slightly excessive negative camber. I can adjust both by shimming bearing hub, although it's seized in there tight. I'll just wait till it needs new bearing hubs (soon?) to do the final right rear wheel alignment adjustment which should completely cure the pull.

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    Here goes:

    I always do my own 5 wheel alignments. Never trusted anyone else to get it straight...

    I set the steering wheel straight (engine running, wiggle it around a bit at center), stretch a chalk line from rear tire tread across the rear sidewall to the front sidewall to check toe in/toe out. Adjust outer tie-rods as necessary.

    If your front end is in good condition it's really as simple as that. I get great mileage from my tires and we can let go of the steering wheel at 130km/h!
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    1. Good shop? 2. Tires could still be at fault

    Quote Originally Posted by GoTWhisKeY View Post
    Hello,
    I have a 2012 Grand Caravan SXT. I bought it used with 40k on it, and it has about 90k on it now.
    It's had a pull to the right since I've owned it. I got the alignment done, and switched tires/rims, and no matter what it still pulls, even if i'm going city speed or highway.
    Anybody know what else it can be?
    I have a bit of warranty left so I'm thinking I'll bring it in, but if anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
    Thanks
    How much do you trust the shop that did the alignment? How long has it been since their equipment has been calibrated? I assume they did a 4 wheel alignment?
    Even though you've rotated tires, it can still be the tires. I had a set of Yokohamas on a previous car that drove me nuts. No matter how I switched them around, the car pulled (the pulling did change from one side to the other, though). Finally found a way to get a pair on the front that didn't pull, or pulled equally in opposite directions. Of course then I could never rotate tires again or I'd be back to the pull to one side or the other.

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    They surely only produced an alignment data report sheet, without actually adjusting camber, toe, or anything, especially in the rear which has the most effect on pull, and which is hardest to adjust... They also likely didn't adjust front camber by taking the time and effort, and also from assuming it cannot be adjusted. What they call an alignment is merely a fine tuning of the front toe.
    Last edited by invader; 03-10-2017 at 12:39 AM.

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    Did you take the van back to the alignment shop and tell them it still pulling?
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