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    Unhappy ABS & Trac off lights on...then some!

    Driving along and my ABS light comes on. No chimes or anything, unless I didn't hear it over the infinity. And also the Trac off light, makes since that one comes on. Trac Control=ABS . I have no idea why my ABS light came on. Anything common to fail on the 3rd gen's ABS system? I'm going to check the wiring/plugs at the ABS wheel sensors tomorrow. On monday I'll be able to take it up to the shop and put it on the Genisys or Snapon Modis and run a diagnosis on the ABS system. After noticing this, I was almost home, right down the street at the stopsign and my belt starts squeeling again. Pretty loud, sounded like a seized up alternator. . I pulled in the driveway as I began to smell coolant so I though, maybe the cheap water pump I put on it 2 years ago let go. Popped the hood and it was a busted radiator hose. Great, no other cars at home right now and I'm all out of duct tape. What to do, what to do?
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    Update: Electrical tape held good enough to make it to Oreilly. I went ahead and bought a thermostat since it's never been changed so why not now? Got the new hose too. When I started it up to leave the ABS light was off but the Voltage light (battery) was one, I think it was just from the belt slipping from coolant and the alternator not spinning because it went off after a few revvs. The ABS light was back on by the time I got to Oreilly's though.
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    Prev. 97 T&C LXi 184k 3.8, 94 T&C 3.8 156k Miles, 93 GV LE 3.3 123k

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    ABS light is one of the things you see when that solder joint goes bad in the cluster, but surely there can be other reasons. In my case, the ABS and seat belt lights were the first signs of the problem, even before the gauges began to drop out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvin View Post
    ABS light is one of the things you see when that solder joint goes bad in the cluster, but surely there can be other reasons. In my case, the ABS and seat belt lights were the first signs of the problem, even before the gauges began to drop out.
    Oh boy. I'm not sure yet. I think there may really be a problem with the ABS because when the light came on the Trac Off light also came on, meaning that the ABS system was disabled. Will the solder joint affect the ABS system?
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    The "solder" problem affects communication between some of the modules. The ABS module then sets a code because it cannot communicate with the cluster, and likely with the BCM, and turns on the warning light. Not sure about the traction control, don't have it, but it would make sense if becomes disabled. If you do get it scanned, you'll know the code whatever it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvin View Post
    The "solder" problem affects communication between some of the modules. The ABS module then sets a code because it cannot communicate with the cluster, and likely with the BCM, and turns on the warning light. Not sure about the traction control, don't have it, but it would make sense if becomes disabled. If you do get it scanned, you'll know the code whatever it is.
    My luck it won't come back on when I drive up there.
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    Well I'm not so sure it's even my ABS. Today as I was driving the ABS light came back on then a few miles later the tach/speedo jumped down about 30MPH/500RPM then back up to their proper speed. Then it shifted very irratically into 4th and the RPM's shot down quicker than I've ever seen when it's shifting. Could this be solder joints?
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    It could be. Does it keep turning on and off, or just stays on? When/if it goes go off as you drive, at that moment watch for the seat belt light to come on for a few seconds, like it does when ignition is turned on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alvin View Post
    It could be. Does it keep turning on and off, or just stays on? When/if it goes go off as you drive, at that moment watch for the seat belt light to come on for a few seconds, like it does when ignition is turned on.
    It hasn't been turning off. It went through a spell a few weeks ago where upon stopping and getting ready to go again it would just be dead. Started right back up. Then sometimes upon leaving a stopsign it would miss or stutter for a second and the MIL would come on then go right back off...no codes stored. It hasn't done this in a while though. I'm thinking I'm going to clean the battery terminals and see what the battery is reading on my voltmeter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sideburns2009 View Post
    It hasn't been turning off. It went through a spell a few weeks ago where upon stopping and getting ready to go again it would just be dead. Started right back up. Then sometimes upon leaving a stopsign it would miss or stutter for a second and the MIL would come on then go right back off...no codes stored. It hasn't done this in a while though. I'm thinking I'm going to clean the battery terminals and see what the battery is reading on my voltmeter.
    Battery and connections at power distribution center (PDC) are good places to start. Good luck.

    A side note and it's likely not applicable to the source of the problem, more of a consequence of the problem: Output sensor on the transmission controls shifting and speedometer. Disconnect the output sensor and the speedometer will go to 0 and the transmission to limp mode.
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