Slightly reminiscent of "No user serviceable parts inside" on most electronics.
2011 T&C Ltd. White Gold, Dark Frost Beige/Med. Frost Beige Interior. Nav., power rear seat, Load Leveling Suspension
1990 Plymouth Grand Voyager LE 3.3L LWB-- 222,222 miles and counting ......
Still Going Strong
without a dipstick, how do you know how much is "the appropriate amount?" If you are draining and refilling, there's some fluid that doesn't get drained. So drain, measure, and refill with the same amount you drained, right? but what if there's a leak?
Give me a dipstick anyday. I may not use it, but it's nice to know it's there, especially if I find transmission fluid on the outside of the pan, or on my garage floor.
2005 Dodge Grand Caravan SXT, 129K mi.
Former owner of:
1988 Dodge Caravan SE, 2.5L I4 (1988-1995, 99K mi); 1995 Plymouth Grand Voyager SE "Rallye", 3.3L (1995-2004, 169K mi); 2003 Grand Caravan Sport, 3.8L, (2004-2008, 106K mi), 2008 Nissan Quest, (2008-2010, 25K mi)
2008 Lexus RX400h (Dark Gray), 112K mi; 2005 Hyundai Elantra GT (Blue), 89K mi
Well if there does happen to be a leak under your 5th gen, I would call up the dealership and demand they have it towed back for repair, cost free of course because it's warranty work, because if it's leaking and there's no dipstick for me to tell if it's dangerously low, then I would refuse to drive it to them. No dipstick would drive me crazy, I'm OCD about my fluid levels and check them frequently.
2001 Infiniti i30 3.0 DOHC V6: VQ30DE 177,000 miles; 1999 Nissan Altima GLE KA24 168,000 Miles
1997 Dodge Ram 1500 SLT Laramie 5.9 46RE, 182,000 Miles
Prev. 97 T&C LXi 184k 3.8, 94 T&C 3.8 156k Miles, 93 GV LE 3.3 123k
I come to Canada and I have actually replaced 3 auto transmissions so far!
On all the cars in Canada the dipstick is the only way to try to prevent the auto trans from dying as they all develop leaks from somewhere. I check the dip sticks every month and if I see a change from the norm I jack the car up and find out why!
1999 Chrysler T&C Limited AWD 250,000kms
My T&C transmission was replaced in US when it was under warranty after attempting to fix it twice. The US dealer told to the ex-owner not to touch it until the new transmission will be 7 years old (end of warranty).
In 2007 when I bought it, the US warranty was lost by bringing the van to Canada. After 1 year, I decided to check the fluid level and... surprise: I had to add 1 liter of fluid to bring it to the required level. How could I know to add 1 liter only and not more or less. No leaks were noticed on my garage floor...
Overall it is known that standard transmissions are much more reliable and usually they over live the car's life
2002 Town and Country LXI - 3.3L - 143,000 miles
1988 Dodge Grand Caravan LE - 3.0L - 270,000 miles (Gone but never forgotten)
The dealer does use a dipstick (special tool!) to check fluid level. Scan tool is used to check transmission temperature to know proper level of fluid on the "special tool". A load of BS in my opinion. I will be looking into fabricating a usable dipstick myself.
Audis are another matter. Those are checked and filled from the bottom. Daughter has one of those unserviceable things.
'87 Caravan LE 3.0, '91, '92, '93, '94 Grand Caravan LE 3.3
'02, '09 T&C Limited 3.8, 4.0
If your worried about your transmission fluid level, call your dealer and schedule an appointment to check your transmission fluid level. They'll do it.
We have some customers that request a level check at every oil change. No problem.
Also I'm surprised some company has not came up with a dipstick to put in the tube that the transmission has. I can't imagine someone has not... I'm sure it is on the drawing board somewhere... if not already available.
2007 Grand Caravan/3.8L V6/103K mi/original 41TE
2006 300C/5.7L HEMI V8/128/K mi/original W5A580
2002 PT Cruiser/2.4L I4/139K mi/original 40TE
1992 S-10/4.3L V6/249K mi/original 4L60E
1997 Grand Voyager SE/traded@192K mi/3.3L V6/original 41TE
2003 Grand Caravan Sport/3.8L V6/traded@124K mi/original 41TE
2007 T&C/3.8L V6/traded@44K mi/ original 41TE
2010 T&C Touring/3.8L V6/the ex's@72K mi/original 62TE
Sealed trans is not reparable,it replaceable only part and it cost a fortune ($4000).Not a single trans shop take to repair,only to replace.Ford is recently drop from production this kind of trans.