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    I have tested to see if the egr valve was getting power and I was getting around 14 volts.

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    What's the year of that vehicle? If it has the older type EGR assembly, you should be able to make it work by putting a vacuum line directly to the valve itself and put a golf tee in the hose you disconnect. The problem occurs when the EGR valve allows too much exhaust gas into the intake. By putting a vacuum line directly to the valve, this should keep it closed so that no exhaust gas enters the intake. You may find the engine pinging at highway speeds though. I didn't when I did it on a 1995 that wanted to stumble and die. At least by doing this you can find out if it is the problem.
    The idea of allowing exhaust gas into the intake is to cool down combustion so less pollutants are emitted.
    If the Van is 2001 or newer, the EGR valve assembly is different. Apparently you can take these ones apart and clean them up. My 2002 was built without one, many were.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeepman View Post
    What's the year of that vehicle? If it has the older type EGR assembly, you should be able to make it work by putting a vacuum line directly to the valve itself and put a golf tee in the hose you disconnect. The problem occurs when the EGR valve allows too much exhaust gas into the intake. By putting a vacuum line directly to the valve, this should keep it closed so that no exhaust gas enters the intake. You may find the engine pinging at highway speeds though. I didn't when I did it on a 1995 that wanted to stumble and die. At least by doing this you can find out if it is the problem.
    The idea of allowing exhaust gas into the intake is to cool down combustion so less pollutants are emitted.
    If the Van is 2001 or newer, the EGR valve assembly is different. Apparently you can take these ones apart and clean them up. My 2002 was built without one, many were.

    The van is a 2001 and it is a 3.3 if that matters. So you can clean these? The code I am getting is for the solenoid not the egr so I think the actual egr is good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscha41 View Post
    The van is a 2001 and it is a 3.3 if that matters. So you can clean these? The code I am getting is for the solenoid not the egr so I think the actual egr is good.
    Solenoids were typical problems with the older models. Hope that solves your problem. I'm not familiar with any jimmying one might be able do with the newer ones. Anything to get the valve to close, would help.
    I believe somebody on here cleaned one up. I will look and if I find anything, let you know.
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    Well I finally took it to the local 5 star to have the problems diagnosed. They gave me five codes P0403, p1491, p0206, p0442, p0455. Now when I did the key dance I got p1491, p0403, p0206 and p1193. Now I can not find what p1193 means. I found a couple small cracks in a few hoses I am going to fix and the egr vacume hose is melted. Dodge told me that I need a new pcm, egr, radiator fan relay, vacume hoses and gave me a total of 1400 dollars They said the pcm will fix injector 6 and part of the radiator fan problem. The relay will fix the other. Oh they did some kind of recall while it was in and he said it was just a piece of tape. Well when I got home I noticed that the plastic peice that going around the radio and climate control was not in right. So I got home and took it apart and I noticed that they put some kind of tape on top of the radio. Well I put it together right. We should just part out the van. We went to a junk yard the other day looking for parts but no luck. They also told me that the egr was bad. If that was bad, wouldn't I get a code for this? Also why am I getting slighty different codes than the dealer?
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    According to the book for my 2003, P1193 = Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage High.
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerduf View Post
    According to the book for my 2003, P1193 = Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage High.
    My manual for my 01 gives P0113 for Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage High. I can not find P1193 in my manual.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscha41 View Post
    My manual for my 01 gives P0113 for Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage High. I can not find P1193 in my manual.
    My book says:

    P0113 = Intake Air Temperature Sensor High
    P1193 = Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage High

    I would have thought the codes would be common year to year, but maybe not. Anyone know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by packerduf View Post
    My book says:


    P1193 = Inlet Air Temp Sensor Voltage High

    I would have thought the codes would be common year to year, but maybe not. Anyone know?
    Oh my bad, Intake and Inlet looked the same to me. Your right that P0113 = Intake Air Temperature Sensor High.

    I still can not find the other code in my book. Also thats wierd that dodge did not come up with that and as soon as I got it home I decided to do the key dance and I got slighty different codes and an additional code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kscha41 View Post
    Oh my bad, Intake and Inlet looked the same to me. Your right that P0113 = Intake Air Temperature Sensor High.

    I still can not find the other code in my book. Also thats wierd that dodge did not come up with that and as soon as I got it home I decided to do the key dance and I got slighty different codes and an additional code.
    Try this. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/in...2125556AAhHs2P

    Maybe Dodge left something loose when doing their check.
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